it doesn't work there for interstate commerce. i don't know which way roberts would go on a similar question. those issues are close right now. >> it's complicated. one of the cases that could be considered is the voting rights act. that could be overturned. obviously affirmative action is going to be on the docket. that's a very complicated issue but it works both ways. there's a high chance this court will hear an appeal to doma. it could be the first court that establishes some progress sift with respect to gay rights. it could make a historic court even though the politics would suggest otherwise. it works both ways and it will be curious to see not only which cases they pick up in what manner and how the arguments play out because doma could come up and so could prop 8 which is a different section of the gay rights debate. i'm curious to see how it plays out. i'm assuming jeff will be on top of it. >> jeff is on top of it right now. a lot of people who watch this show are pro choice, some not, but many are. how would roe v. w